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Best Bench: 94% Base clock 3.2 GHz, turbo 4.3 GHz (avg)
Worst Bench: 75% Base clock 3.2 GHz, turbo 0.8 GHz (avg)

Poor: 75% Great: 94%

SPEED RANK: 169^th / 1456

Gaming 87%

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Desktop 89%

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Workstation 78%

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2,411 User Benchmarks

Great bench: 125% Base clock 4.5 GHz, turbo 5.3 GHz (avg)
Poor bench: 103% Base clock 4.5 GHz, turbo 5.1 GHz (avg)

Poor: 103% Great: 125%

SPEED RANK: 36^th / 1456

Gaming 114%

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Desktop 115%

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Workstation 150%

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Effective Speed Effective CPU Speed		87 %			114 %	Much faster effective speed. +31%


Memory Avg. Memory Latency	88.7 Pts	Lower memory latency. +11%	79.9 Pts
1-Core Avg. Single Core Speed	126 Pts		210 Pts	Much faster single-core speed. +67%
2-Core Avg. Dual Core Speed	245 Pts		406 Pts	Much faster dual-core speed. +66%
4-Core Avg. Quad Core Speed	459 Pts		789 Pts	Much faster quad-core speed. +72%
8-Core Avg. Octa Core Speed	748 Pts		1526 Pts	Hugely faster octa-core speed. +104%


Memory OC Memory Latency	95.5 Pts	+2%	93.3 Pts
1-Core OC Single Core Speed	132 Pts		221 Pts	Much faster OC single-core speed. +67%
2-Core OC Dual Core Speed	263 Pts		433 Pts	Much faster OC dual-core speed. +65%
4-Core OC Quad Core Speed	518 Pts		856 Pts	Much faster OC quad-core speed. +65%
8-Core OC Octa Core Speed	822 Pts		1683 Pts	Hugely faster OC octa-core speed. +105%

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Market Share Market Share (trailing 30 days)	1.2 %	Insanely higher market share. +2,900%	0.04 %
Value Value For Money	97.2 %		97.6 %	+0%
User Rating UBM User Rating	71 %	More popular. +16%	61 %
Price Price (score)	$186	Much cheaper. +62%	$487


Age Newest	80 Months		20 Months	Much more recent. +75%
TDP Thermal Design Power (TDP)	65 Watts	Much more energy efficient. +62%	170 Watts
Cores CPU Processing Cores	6 cores		16 cores	Hugely higher core count. +167%
Threads CPU Processing Threads	12 threads		32 threads	Hugely higher thread count. +167%
Lithography Manufacturing process	14 nm		5 nm	Much newer manufacturing. +64%
Base Clock Base Clock Speed	3.2 GHz		4.5 GHz	Much faster base frequency. +41%
Turbo Clock Turbo Clock Speed	4.6 GHz		5.7 GHz	Faster turbo frequency. +24%
64-Core OC Multi Core Speed	1043 Pts		3894 Pts	Hugely faster OC 64-core speed. +273%
64-Core Avg. Multi Core Speed	936 Pts		3636 Pts	Hugely faster 64-core speed. +288%


Series CPU Architecture	Coffee Lake	Zen4
Socket Motherboard Socket	FCLGA1151	AM5
Graphics Integrated Graphics	UHD 630	RDNA2

The high-end hex core, 12 thread i7-8700 is second in Intel’s line up of 8th generation Coffee Lake CPUs that witnesses an increase in the number of cores at each SKU, as well as further refinement on the 14nm architecture as seen in the 6th and 7th generations. The i7-8700 features a TDP of 65W, 12MB of L3 Cache and 16 PCIe lanes. Although the 8700 has a base clock of 3.2 GHz it has an all core boost of 4.3 GHz and a single core boost of 4.6 GHz. These are unusually high clocks for a non-K SKU, Intel have historically clocked their non-K SKUs around 10% lower than the flagship K variants but with Coffee Lake, the 8700 is almost a match for a stock 8700K. Priced at $320, the i7-8700 offers exceptional single, quad and multi-core processing power to the mainstream market but unfortunately a new 300 series chipset will also need to be factored into the purchase. AMD’s comparably priced Ryzen 7 1700X is an 8 core 16 thread processor which is around 20% faster at multi-threaded tasks, but has around 20% slower single and quad core performance so the choice between these two processors is use case dependant but generally favours Intel for most desktop users whose workloads are typically single or dual core bound. ^{[Oct '17 CPUPro]}

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Within minutes of the first, pre-release, 7000 series userbenchmark results, AMD’s marketers broadcast a 20% win over the 12900K via thousands of anonymous twitter, reddit, forum and youtube accounts. Buying new AMD products is like buying used cars: it takes time, experience and a taste for sales hype. It’s difficult for consumers to make rational choices while AMD completely dominates “sponsored news” and social media channels. Ten years ago, when AMD was the underdog, this type of marketing was understandable. Today, with a capitalization of $150 Billion USD, it’s disrespectful to AMD's own users. Even with Intel's marketing department asleep at the wheel, Ryzen will quickly end up in the same state as Radeon. Following a series of overhyped releases, consumers have little interest in the Radeon brand. The combined market share for all of AMD’s (discrete) Radeon RX 5000 and 6000 GPUs (Steam stats) is just 2%. Although the new 7000 series Zen4 CPUs are actually around 15% faster than their predecessors, they have hefty cooling requirements (TDP +60% vs 5000 series), 30 second BIOS post times, expensive DDR5 RAM requirements and only work with expensive motherboards. Despite the 7000 series struggling to match Intel’s outgoing 12th gen, AMD market it as a “future proof” platform! They want users to pay a premium for last gen performance in exchange for the shallow promise of upgrades in the future. Over the next few days, Intel’s 13th gen (Raptor Lake) will launch. Shoppers will do well to wait until then. Despite AMD’s Neanderthal marketing techniques, it’s hard not to admire their technical progress. AMD-Raptor4 and Intel-Zen13 would be better fitting product names. ^{[Sep '22 CPUPro]}

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